# Clarion 12 - What Problems or Issues have you found?

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**Created:** [May 17, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182 "2025-05-17T16:22:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![CarlBarnes](https://clarionhub.com/user_avatar/clarionhub.com/carlbarnes/32/1859_2.png) [@CarlBarnes](https://clarionhub.com/u/CarlBarnes)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/1 "2025-05-17T16:22:55Z")

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I’ll setup this topic for problems so my other topic can remain focused on What’s New and Features Found or Missing.

There has been a report of the [MS SQL driver opening more connections than expected](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-mssql-driver-problem-opens-a-dozen-connections/8171).

I’ll move the problems posted in my other topic.

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**Author:** ![Daniel1](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@Daniel1](https://clarionhub.com/u/Daniel1)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 5:35am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/2 "2025-05-17T05:35:35Z")

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I only found a problem in my PE edition - as you can see in the image below, I don’t have the option to set the layout.  
I guess that’s why my layout isn’t being saved. When I select a few Views like Solution Explorer, Toolbox etc. and set them inside the IDE, the next time I open the IDE, they’re gone.  
In C11.1 it works fine.  
Does anyone else have this problem?

![view](https://clarionhub-uploads.s3.eu-north-1.amazonaws.com/original/2X/c/c45743ddb5ef0e404a21948221f742fd895b8d90.gif)

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**Author:** ![Slava](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@Slava](https://clarionhub.com/u/Slava)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 6:09am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/3 "2025-05-17T06:09:51Z")

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Similarly.  
All the issues on my list in the IDE and runtime remained unchanged.

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**Author:** ![martingreatmargins](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@martingreatmargins](https://clarionhub.com/u/martingreatmargins)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 9:59am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/4 "2025-05-17T09:59:12Z")

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Yes, same problem, not saving layout. It looks like a Sharp Develop problem as there is no file in Folder “layouts”, and if you click in the IDE on “View” \> “Choose Layout”, you get nothing.

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**Author:** ![Flavio\_Suarez](https://clarionhub.com/user_avatar/clarionhub.com/flavio_suarez/32/1347_2.png) [@Flavio\_Suarez](https://clarionhub.com/u/Flavio_Suarez)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/5 "2025-05-17T13:13:12Z")

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Hi,

No problem here with the layout menu…  
I have the Clarion EE…

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**Author:** ![jslarve](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jslarve](https://clarionhub.com/u/jslarve)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/6 "2025-05-17T18:26:21Z")

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When I initially installed, the setup didn’t complete adding the shortcuts because Malwarebytes said it was ransomware. However, it appeared that the software was installed.

When I opened windows explorer on my left monitor and navigated to c:\Clarion12\bin and launched Clarion.exe, I saw the prompt asking if I wanted to register Clarion 12, but then nothing appeared on the screen, and I killed the process in task manager.

When I moved explorer to the middle screen and ran Clarion.exe, it worked fine. I got the registration window.

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**Author:** ![Daniel1](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@Daniel1](https://clarionhub.com/u/Daniel1)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 5:17am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/7 "2025-05-18T05:17:41Z")

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@Slava I’m not sure does your IDE save the layout (opened views) or not?

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**Author:** ![Daniel1](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@Daniel1](https://clarionhub.com/u/Daniel1)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 5:19am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/8 "2025-05-18T05:19:06Z")

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@martingreatmargins OK thanks for the confirmation. Now we can call it a “bug”.

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**Author:** ![Slava](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@Slava](https://clarionhub.com/u/Slava)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 6:53am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/9 "2025-05-18T06:53:28Z")

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> [@Daniel1](#):
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> I’m not sure does your IDE save the layout (opened views) or not?

My layout is also not saved. Clarion12 PE.

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**Author:** ![Slava](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@Slava](https://clarionhub.com/u/Slava)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 7:26am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/10 "2025-05-18T07:26:37Z")

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> [@Daniel1](#):
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> I’m not sure does your IDE save the layout (opened views) or not?

Copy the folder `C:\Clarion11\data\resources\layouts `  
to the folder ` C:\Clarion12\data\resources\layouts `  
This will solve the problem.

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**Author:** ![Daniel1](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@Daniel1](https://clarionhub.com/u/Daniel1)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 8:15am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/11 "2025-05-18T08:15:49Z")

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@Slava Thank you for this one.

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**Author:** ![martingreatmargins](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@martingreatmargins](https://clarionhub.com/u/martingreatmargins)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 3:03pm UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/13 "2025-05-18T15:03:18Z")

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Thank you very much for that.

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**Author:** ![vlada\_vukicevic](https://clarionhub.com/user_avatar/clarionhub.com/vlada_vukicevic/32/2343_2.png) [@vlada\_vukicevic](https://clarionhub.com/u/vlada_vukicevic)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/14 "2025-05-18T16:05:58Z")

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All my applications work with MSSQL Driver and most of them are in the cloud. In my opinion, it is an ideal combination of Clarion and SQL Server. With C11 PE, everything worked perfectly, when I made only those applications without any changes in C12 PE, none of the Browses work as before, each one is much slower, and the biggest problem is that some Browses do not execute at all and the program remains hanging and only the Task Manager helps to stop it. For me, the current version of C12 PE is a disappointment and I hope that this problem will be fixed soon. As a developer who has been programming in Clarion for 30 years, I have looked forward to every new version of Clarion and its progress, but for now I have to stay in C11 until this is resolved. Is it possible that only I have this problem, if anyone has the same problem please report it. (Just to note that I’m using SQL Servers 2022 running on Windows Servers 2022)

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**Author:** ![DonnEdwards](https://clarionhub.com/user_avatar/clarionhub.com/donnedwards/32/1047_2.png) [@DonnEdwards](https://clarionhub.com/u/DonnEdwards)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/15 "2025-05-18T17:09:38Z")

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The file “C:\Clarion12\bin\ClarionHelp.chm” is dated 15 August 2023 and is **identical** to “C:\Clarion11.1\bin\ClarionHelp.chm”

The PDF files in C:\Clarion12\docs seem to be text-identical to C:\Clarion11.1\docs, apart from some page numbering and formatting. So far ExamDiff Pro can find no new text.

So where is the documentation about the new IDE and all the promised AI features?

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**Author:** ![Daniel1](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b19c9b/32.png) [@Daniel1](https://clarionhub.com/u/Daniel1)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 5:46pm UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/16 "2025-05-18T17:46:37Z")

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> [@vlada\_vukicevic](#):
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> All my applications work with MSSQL Driver and most of them are in the cloud

How you do that? I mean, how you work with Cloud database?

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**Author:** ![TonyLam](https://clarionhub.com/user_avatar/clarionhub.com/tonylam/32/6185_2.png) [@TonyLam](https://clarionhub.com/u/TonyLam)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 4:03am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/17 "2025-05-19T04:03:50Z")

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I was expecting the Unicode support for years, but I got 2 main problems in my first try.

1. If I type a special Chinese Word 埗 (it can be typed here and in MS word) in the clw using an assignment myStr = ‘埗’, when I save the clw file and try to compile, there are 3 Errors saying Illegal character and the whole clw file is ruined and cannot use anymore, not even I deleted the assignment, I have to delete the entire clw and do it over again
2. I can’t key in the Chinese Word 埗 in Clarion Window entry field, it just shows a question mark (?)

Please advise what should be done to enable unicode code support in C12?

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**Author:** ![ironmansculler](https://clarionhub.com/user_avatar/clarionhub.com/ironmansculler/32/5421_2.png) [@ironmansculler](https://clarionhub.com/u/ironmansculler)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 4:41am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/18 "2025-05-19T04:41:50Z")

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does appear to be some issues then… along with some emails getting lost…

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**Author:** ![Marius\_Nel](https://clarionhub.com/user_avatar/clarionhub.com/marius_nel/32/2309_2.png) [@Marius\_Nel](https://clarionhub.com/u/Marius_Nel)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 4:56am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/19 "2025-05-19T04:56:56Z")

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Also not received my update yet… 😟

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**Author:** ![Bruce](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Bruce](https://clarionhub.com/u/Bruce)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 5:29am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/20 "2025-05-19T05:29:29Z")

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There is no information on how to use unicode yet. Im sure folk will post as doon as we know.

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**Author:** ![martingreatmargins](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@martingreatmargins](https://clarionhub.com/u/martingreatmargins)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 8:09am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/clarion-12-what-problems-or-issues-have-you-found/8182/21 "2025-05-19T08:09:16Z")

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I successfully recompiled all my apps with C12. 50 Apps in one solution.  
However, I get an annoying error when loading each app,  
“Errors were found on reading templates.  
See the Output Pad for more information.”  
The output pad shows NO ERRORS. I do use some of my own templates but no third parties. The app works properly, and prints PDF documents properly. and all 50 DLL`s show no errors at all when compiling. Puzzling and annoying.

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