# Initinal value somtimes null sometimes empty

**URL:** <https://clarionhub.com/t/initinal-value-somtimes-null-sometimes-empty/9456>\
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**Created:** [October 25, 2026, 9:57am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/initinal-value-somtimes-null-sometimes-empty/9456 "2026-10-25T09:57:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dirk1](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dirk1](https://clarionhub.com/u/Dirk1)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 9:57am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/initinal-value-somtimes-null-sometimes-empty/9456/1 "2026-10-25T09:57:43Z")

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Hi All,

Inserting a new record from a browse/form can initially save a specific field sometimes with null and sometimes with "empty". The field is not touched in the form. I get the idea this has to do with the last saved record beforehand. Any ideas?

Using c11.1 and firebird as backend

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**Author:** ![RchdR](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@RchdR](https://clarionhub.com/u/RchdR)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 10:53am UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/initinal-value-somtimes-null-sometimes-empty/9456/2 "2026-10-25T10:53:29Z")

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The browse class will create a new record when you click the insert button and before you enter the form.

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**Author:** ![Dirk1](https://clarionhub.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dirk1](https://clarionhub.com/u/Dirk1)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2026, 1:21pm UTC](https://clarionhub.com/t/initinal-value-somtimes-null-sometimes-empty/9456/3 "2026-10-25T13:21:34Z")

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I think the buffer can explain the differences i noticed. In the dct i can set an initinal value ie  
0;setnonull(Fil:Fieldname) but hoped there was a more generic way to clear the buffer in all forms